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    "id": 209537,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/209537/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Mr. Kajwang",
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    "speaker": {
        "id": 164,
        "legal_name": "Gerald Otieno Kajwang",
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    "content": "Mr. Chairman, Sir, one word, because after listening to all these gentlemen, they seem to be targeting BAT. But just assume, for example, that a trader in Migori, at the border where I come from, or in Suba, which is also at the border, imports, maybe illegally, some cigarettes from Tanzania or Uganda, and wants to sell them in my village and then he is caught. You will fine that villager Kshs1 million, because that is what the law says. He may be fined Kshs1 million, that is what we are saying. Courts are tempted, sometimes, because we are trying we discourage, to really just fine Kshs1 million. So, for that kind of an offence, you should not jail somebody for five years. That is what we are trying to say."
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