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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, for giving me a chance to contribute to this very important Motion. Right from the outset, I would like to commend the Ministry of Administration and National Security. There is a marked improvement in the operations of this Ministry. Those who are not lauding it are those who do not remember what we used to have. For example, at one time, I used to be an Assistant Minister in the Office of the President. When I was sacked, I could not hold meetings in my own constituency for six months. I had to go back and beg to be allowed to hold meetings. Today, you can insult the Government, get sacked and continue having the freedom to operate in your constituency. So, let us commend them on that score. The Provincial Administration officers, especially chiefs, assistant chiefs, District Officers (DOs) and District Commissioners (DCs) listen to people these days, much more than before. So, July 10, 2007 PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES 2375 let us also commend them on that. I know, and I am concerned, about the level of insecurity in the country. However, let us not attribute that level to the Ministry. Let us find out: Why do we have so much insecurity, especially being perpetrated by the young people? The root cause of that problem, as previous speakers have said, and I also support them, is unemployment. What does that young person, who has gone through university, completed schooling and does not have a job, or shamba, to earn his livelihood, do? He is married and has a child or two. He goes to his house, the wife and the kids are crying, because they do not have food for that night. What does he do? Instead of attributing the problem to the failure of the Ministry, let us find out how we can solve the problem of unemployment and poverty. Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, I hope that, when tomorrow, or the day after, I raise my Motion in this Parliament to require the Government to provide employment to 250,000 or 500,000 people, the Minister for Administration and National Security will come here and support it. I will be solving a problem that he cannot solve using the current methods. For example, we raised the case of Mungiki . We let it take root for 22 years. That was the only way they knew of deriving their livelihood. How do you stop the wrong methods of deriving a livelihood and tell them to go home, and expect them to go and sit there and die due to lack of food for themselves and their families? I am not urging the Minister to talk with them. But first and foremost, I am a Christian. In Christianity we are taught a fundamental principle to forgive; to forgive even those who have wronged us. Those young people who are in Mungiki and other thuggish communities who have not yet committed actual crime--- I hope the Minister will consider to forgive them. He should find ways in the Government to engage that idle energy. The other day I did a survey in my constituency. I have 116 graduates from Kenyan universities, and more than 200 university graduates from abroad who have no jobs. In Kisii, where I come from, the biggest land a family has is one acre and half. They cannot derive a livelihood from that piece of land. So, I would urge the Minister to look at those young people who have been recruited into thuggery, see them as his children and grandchildren, and find a way of discussing with them how they can be helped by the country, so that they can become proper citizens of this country. I have heard people say that there is extra-judicial killings. Those who are talking about those killings have not lost their loved ones who were policemen on duty, and have been killed by thugs. Do you expect them to let those thugs to kill them? The few they arrest are taken to court and are released the next morning. They go on a spree to look for those policemen who arrested them in the first place, so that they can kill them. Is that what we want to have in this country? Those policemen have got to defend themselves and provide security. What I would expect is that the Ministry, or the entire Government, talks with Judicial officers, so that they do not let free apprehended criminals, who were trying to kill or have killed some people. This will ensure that our policemen are confident that, if they arrest somebody who was trying to kill them, that person will not be released the next morning to go and hunt them down. There is the issue of the welfare of members of the Police Force and other security agencies. I would urge the Minister to look for funding. In fact, we should provide more funding for this Ministry, more than we are providing for education, because you cannot go to school unless you are secure. You cannot drive on a good road unless you are secure. So, first and foremost, we should provide adequate resources to ensure security in this country, then we can do the rest of the things for development. I would also urge the administration in the Police Department to be accommodative of the police force. I come from a research background, and did a small survey about three months ago. Many policemen are dissatisfied with the way they are handled by their seniors. When a police 2376 PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES July 10, 2007 officer seeks leave to attend to an urgent matter affecting his family, he or she does not get it easily. When a police officer has a disciplinary case pending before the Public Service Commission (PSC), and it is decided in favour of the police officer, the Police Force refuses to reinstate the officer. What message are we sending to the rest of the police officers? Are we saying that they can be wrongly dismissed or disciplined, and that if the PSC decides in favour of the officer, the Commissioner of Police can refuse to accept the decision that has been passed by the Public Service Commission? That is insubordination. In fact, it is a case of indiscipline, however senior the one committing it may be. Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, I would like to move on to the Department of Administration Police. That cadre is doing a good job in terms of our security in our villages. This is because they work with the chiefs and the assistant chiefs, which makes them know the people better and so they can attend to incidences of crime easily. However, the regular police force, sometimes, carry out raids without involving the Provincial Administration. It is as if they are from a different administration. I have two cases where police officers from one police post raided a home and rounded up people who had lost their father, because they were taking a drink. Doing something like that to people who have lost their relative, is against the African tradition. So, if the Minister will recruit more police officers, I would urge him to recruit officers for the Administrative Police instead of the regular police. The Administrative Police officers work better with the communities where they are posted. Finally, let me turn to the issue of districts. Those who do not support the creation of new districts such as Narok North or the Narok South--- I urge the Minister to change the proposal of splitting Narok District and give the allocation to Kitutu Masaba and Borabu in Kisii. We want to have new districts. Even Mosop should become a district. I know that Mr. Speaker too wants Dol Dol to become a district. Those new districts are justified. In fact, if we had more resources, we would create more districts, starting with where I come from. I sincerely urge the Minister to allocate vehicles to the District Officers (DOs) in Marani and Mosocho divisions in my constituency. I know that if we equip our security forces properly, we will have better security in this country. With those few remarks, I beg to support."
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