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    "id": 217533,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/217533/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Mr. Munya",
    "speaker_title": "The Assistant Minister, Office of the President",
    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Joseph Konzolo Munyao",
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    "content": " Mr. Speaker, Sir, I was simply explaining that when it is convenient, some politicians use some illegal gangs for their own purposes. But it is important to note that gangs of that nature are a danger to everybody else. They are a danger to society. They grow into monsters that we cannot control. So, even when it is in our convenience, we should never support criminal activities, irrespective of whether they are on our side or not. That is why this Government has vowed to wipe out that illegal gang. Mr. Speaker, Sir, on the issue of hon. Members being held by that group, those were allegations made by an hon. Member to the newspapers. He later refuted those allegations and said he was misquoted. We cannot rely on allegations. In any case, if you are forced to take an oath with a gun on your head, I do not see how effective that oath can be. An oath is supposed to be something that you take willingly, for it to be effective. If you are told: \"Take it or we kill you\", I do not see the effectiveness. In any case, we have no evidence that anybody took any oath. If any hon. Member has evidence that can link a particular hon. Member to that oath, we are ready to take that information and follow it up. Mr. Speaker, Sir, we cannot create---"
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