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"content": " Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, I am happy to note that it was only one woman. I was saying that if the public is able to see, on television, the people who were involved in theft, or misappropriation of public resources, during proceedings of the PIC, then we will develop a culture, even among our youth, who are up-coming to fill these positions, of wanting to reject ill-gotten wealth and such people. A point has been made that some people here have been named in Parliamentary Reports but they still present themselves as Members of Parliament. They have gone through the nomination process, and their nomination papers have been accepted by the Electoral Commission of Kenya (ECK), but how many people out there, really, know about these Reports? If a Member of Parliament, or a prospective Member of Parliament, was seen last year being grilled on national television, or was heard on radio, being grilled about possible theft of public funds, he will not even dare present his nomination papers to the ECK. I want to agree with May 16, 2007 PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES 1425 those hon. Members who have called for change, at the very least, of the rules of this House. If we cannot go public on everything else, then, at least, the PIC and Public Accounts Committee proceedings should be prioritised to go public, so that we can create a culture of honesty in this country. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, again, I would like to say that we need to set up the implementation committee of the recommendations of this House, of course, with a rider, that we should not take over the work of the Executive. But I am sure that the House, which has the oversight responsibility, can find a way of creating this implementation committee which will collaborate with the Executive, so that we can get results. This is because, in the final analysis, it is not about fighting for space or who holds what powers, under the separation of powers doctrine, but it is about getting results for this country. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I would like to say that the Government supports this Report, and it will carry out the implementation of the recommendations. In fact, as you will notice from the implementation status of the 13th Report that is being debated together with the 14th Report of the Public Investments Committee (PIC), indeed, there is a will by the Treasury and Government, to make some definite implementation. We have started with some of them, and we will finish some of the things that are pending. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, with those few remarks, I beg to support."
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