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    "id": 223475,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/223475/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Prof. Kibwana",
    "speaker_title": "The Minister for Environment and Natural Resources",
    "speaker": {
        "id": 277,
        "legal_name": "Kibwana Kivutha",
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    "content": " Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the question that prompted the discussion with the hon. Member and, of course, I May 2, 2007 PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES 1045 defer to your ruling, was that currently this House has voted that the Ministry will get money to the tune of Kshs141,664,908 through charging such fees. It means that even with the best of intentions, the Ministry will have a problem in terms of being faithful to this Motion when it is passed because before Parliament replaces that amount, it means that the Ministry will have to seek that particular amount. If this august House was to make that money available, the Ministry will very gladly accept that those fees should be waived. There is also that technical aspect of what happens if a Motion is passed. Where will the money that will be used in implementing what the Motion is seeking come from since Parliament has passed our estimates of the Appropriations-in-Aid? It is already included in the printed estimates. We have no other problem. Our problem is simply that this Parliament has already passed that we should raise such money from activities such as planning, registration, survey and conveyancing."
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