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    "id": 227967,
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    "speaker_name": "Mr. Kones",
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        "legal_name": "Kipkalya Kones ( Deceased)",
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    "content": "Ndoinet is in Kuresoi Constituency. Government land was allocated back in the 90s, but it was not de-gazetted. Some time back, two or three years ago, it was de-gazetted and given to certain individuals. As we are sitting here now, certain people are coming with allotment letters saying that they have been allocated those pieces of land. It is going to be a double or triple allocation. It is going to cause problems. In Likia, it is the same scenario. The land was given to people, but was never de-gazetted. It has the same problem. So, we think it not just an insecurity matter. It is a problem that the Ministry of Lands has to deal with it, and deal with it now! Otherwise, we are going to blame the Ministry of Internal Security for nothing. It is not a security matter. It turns into a security matter later on, when people start killing each other. But the genesis of the problem is that the Government is not taking a decision to de-gazette the land, so that it could be allocated to the people. The people should be allowed to develop those pieces of land without disturbances. So, the Chebyuk problem is just that. People were given land, but they were not told that they owned it. They were just told to squat on that land. Later on, other people came in and said they owned that land. Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, it is a shame that we are talking about 85 people having lost their lives in the last eight months. The Government is not taking any action. If the Government takes action, it does not need to involve all of us. The Government just needs to go down there. The Ministry of Lands and that of Administration and National Security should go down there and sort out that problem. But if we leave it to the politicians, it will never end. Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, when we hear Kapondi becoming a warlord--- How does Kapondi become a warlord? Kapondi has no capacity. Kapondi is a very humble person. He has got nothing. How could he become a warlord? He is such a humble and helpless person. He is somebody who owns nothing. Then we say that Members of Parliament are inciting the people. If somebody went there one day to donate a few bags of maize, how does that incite communities to fight? I think it is something that the Government ought to have dealt with yesterday. Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, even the Mau eviction has not been resolved up to today. People are still hoping to go back there. Some have already gone back. Some have not decided what to do. The Minister of State for Administration and National Security and the April 4, 2007 PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES 365 Minister for Lands have not given a decision on what will happen. I think somebody needs to take us a bit more seriously. It is now perceived that, every time there are tribal or land clashes, it is in the Rift Valley among the Kalenjins. That is wrong. Somebody is trying to portray us as people who are not law abiding or people who are primitive in their thinking. That is not true. It is just because the Government does not help us when we have a problem. With those few remarks, I beg to support."
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