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    "speaker_name": "Mr. Gumo",
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    "content": ", even those who do not have them will have to suffer because their homes will have to be raided and everybody must be ready to co-operate. That is the only way we can withdraw these guns from wananchi . However, if we do not do that, then we are cheating ourselves. Sometimes when the Government intends to take action, some people start complaining that their people are being victimised. Why do we cry that they are being victimised and yet they are criminals? If somebody is a criminal, then he is one. It does not matter whether he is your brother or not. Such a person should be arrested and if he is found with a gun--- That is why sometimes I support hon. Michuki when he says that if such people are found, they should be shot dead. Some people have accused the Minister for giving this order and yet we have lost so many innocent people in the hands of criminals. In fact, that is the only area I support hon. Michuki. How do you arrest somebody with a gun? Somebody is ready to kill you and you are going there to arrest him. How do you do that? Hon. Michuki is right and he should be supported. We must withdraw these guns from the hands of civilians. Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, everybody has been talking about tribalism. This is a disease. We cannot blame the President for tribalism. We should blame the people who have been put into positions of authority by the President because they are the ones who are promoting tribalism. When you are given a place to manage, you employ your tribesmen and you actually forget about other people. Kenya is for all of us and the President does not employ people from one tribe in every Ministry. It is the people who are in charge of those Ministries who are employing these people. They look at their homes and decide to employ their brothers and sisters. That is the problem with this country, and people must be nationalists. Let me give an example. If, today, you want a Turkana with a Ph.D, you will get him. You do not have to go to Central Province to get somebody with a Ph.D. Even though, people with Ph.Ds are never good administrators. They are supposed to teach and do research. The people who work only have one or two degrees. These are people who have narrowed their knowledge. So, you do not need somebody with a Ph.D to run the Central Bank of Kenya. Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, the lady whom they denied the job and claimed was not qualified, has never ever worked anywhere else apart from the Central Bank of Kenya (CBK). Right from the university, she went to the CBK. She has gone through all the ranks to the deputy Governor of CBK. To make it worse, the day they brought the professor, they split the position of deputy Governor. Now, there are two deputy Governors! This was meant to frustrate her even more because she does not come from the right community. That is wrong! Those people who are doing so, should be prepared to pay for it. It may be next year. Some people will suffer for the things they are doing now. Let us be nationalists. In fact, they are destroying the chances for the President. They are given a job to do, but instead they look for their tribesmen to appoint in high positions in 144 PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES March 27, 2007 the Government. I do not think the President is a tribalist. I have worked for him as an Assistant Minister for five years. He never showed anything like that. However, the people he has put into those offices are letting him down. They will make him lose the next general elections. For them to assist the President, they need to see Kenya as Kenya. They are not the right people to occupy those positions. They are the ones to go and they must do so, very quickly. Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, everybody is talking about the Hummer vehicle. The Hummer vehicle is a very cheap vehicle. They are sold at General Motors (GM). It costs about Kshs6 million, duty free. Even the car the hon. Member drives is more expensive than the Hummer vehicle we are talking about. It is only because some people have never seen it. Do not capitalise on a cheap thing like it. It is just a four-wheel drive vehicle like any other. I do not know why people say it is very expensive. Come and I will take you where you can get one. You can get it at the GM, industrial area, at Kshs6 million. In fact, hon. Members here qualify for duty free vehicles. A Landcruiser might even be more expensive."
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