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    "speaker_name": "Mr. DeputySpeaker",
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    "speaker": {
        "id": 16,
        "legal_name": "Farah Maalim Mohamed",
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    "content": "Order! Order! You are making this House a two-Member affair! Listen, Mr. Mwenje; the document was requested by the Minister, and it is going to be given to the Minister because he asked for it. You did not ask for substantiation; he asked for the document. The Chair is within its rights to provide the document to the Minister. As a matter of fact, the Chair could as well have ignored the Minister's request, because he did not demand substantiation when the hon. Member was on the Floor. He said: \"As the Minister responsible for public service, I would like to have a look at that list, so that I may investigate it\". Then I said: \"It is a fair request. Could we have the list?\" So, there is a difference between asking for substantiation when an hon. Member is on the Floor and requesting to see a document, as the Minister did. By the way, the Minister has not objected to being given the document, which he requested. So, let us be fair. The hon. Member was not challenged to produce the document when he was on the Floor. If, indeed, he was challenged, I would not have allowed him to go out. You saw that when he attempted to go out, the Chair sent the Serjeant-At-Arms to follow him and retrieve the document from him. Indeed, he has been made to come here and bring the document. So, I do not see the issue. May I ask the Clerk-at-the-Table to pass on the document to the Minister to look at? It is not for publication. It is for the Minister to look at and investigate, as he requested. March 22, 2007 PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES 89"
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