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    "speaker_name": "Ms. Karua",
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        "legal_name": "Martha Wangari Karua",
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    "content": "Therefore, Mr. Speaker, Sir, it became necessary to just give some factual information to the public without any conclusions. So, even the original Questioner is assuming that I was ascribing guilt or even lack of it when I gave out the list. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I will be wishing to lay the list I annexed to my Press statement on the Table, if allowed. But clearly, all I was stating is that, of the 18 Anglo Leasing projects, I listed them one by one according to their dates. I gave the project name, the date it was signed, the name of the Permanent Secretary at that particular time in the Ministry and the name of the Minister in office. I also gave the name of the Permanent Secretary or Financial Secretary in the Treasury who actually signed the contract and the name of the Minister in office at the Treasury at the time of signing the contract. I then gave the name of the representative of the contracting parties. I was very careful and I added: \"I was not ascribing guilt or lack of it on anyone, that is just factual information and investigations are going on\". 4122 PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES December 5, 2006 My aim was that if a certain person, in or outside Parliament, was in office and was responsible for contract \"X\", let him or her not stand in a public podium, to ask about it. Instead, he or she should be telling us more about it. I think I did achieve."
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