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"content": "Thank you, Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir. I want to tell Mr. Michuki, who is my good friend, that, indeed, he was in that system. Since the Government's hand is very long, they are even fishing some people from the archives! That is the only unfortunate thing about them. This was an anomaly by the patrons then. Interestingly, they are still patronising even now. I want to remind my senior friend, Mr. Michuki, whom I respect tremendously, that some people served during the colonial times. They served with the late Kenyatta, former President Moi and they are now serving with His Excellency President Kibaki. If I take power tomorrow, they will serve in my Government. This was an anomaly that was cancerous and we must stop it. If we stopped it in 1998, the issue would not have re-appeared in 2002. Unfortunately, because there is continuity of State wastage and the culture of swallowing blood money - it is blood money because when somebody is dying at the Kenyatta National Hospital (KNH) because of lack of a respiratory machine, another person is enjoying good food with his family. That is how archaic this is. If we put things in perspective, some of us will commit suicide. I did not say this was only happening then, but even now it is still going on. A courtesy of continuity. We have a culture of continuity that determines the way we did things yesterday, how we will do them tomorrow and in the coming years. So that I can make my senior friend, Mr. Michuki happy, I want to address issues of another Ministry. I would like to say that we have a weak prosecution system. Why do I say this? In all the Ministries, actually they would spend, and I do not know whether to blame Parliament or not. But, again, when you are muzzled up and your parties are dead, when you want to do this and they have the power and muscle, you cannot do anything. Our prosecution systems are wasted. Why am I saying this? Corruption before and today is very lucrative. When I was studying Economics at college, I was told that the higher the risk, the higher the returns. In Kenya, it is the contrary. The higher the risk, the lower the returns in terms of graft. Why? Those who have eaten are being pampered. You remember some time during the previous regime, which is also happening today, one is taken to court and still remains in Cabinet. How do you prosecute me? What powers do you have? Somebody was taken to court with a national flag, with the coat of arms. How do you think a judge can convict that person when his confirmation is going to be debated at the Cabinet level with his input? Our prosecution process is flawed. The risks of having to stop this are very low. If we were to increase the punitive measures, get these gentleman and deal with them quickly, graft would have gone down. Indeed, you remember, in 2003, I commended this Government on the platform on which we gave them our votes. This was zero tolerance to corruption. If you remember, between January, February and March, 2003, Kenyans had resolved that \"Kibaki amesema hatutaki kitukidogo.\""
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