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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Ms. Karua",
    "speaker_title": "The Minister for Justice and Constitutional Affairs",
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        "legal_name": "Martha Wangari Karua",
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    "content": " Thank you, for protecting me, Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir. This Government has tried its best to address these issues and that is why there was a negotiation mechanism. The questions we need to ask ourselves, whether it is that side that was seated on the right side of the House or not, is it possible to give a 600 per cent pay rise? Let nobody incite any side of the negotiating parties to things that are impossible. As a nation, we have to redress the things we have neglected for years simultaneously and see how to balance them. Any leader who is arguing differently and making it appear like we are ignoring one sector and only looking at the other, is committing, in my view, an act of irresponsibility. We, therefore, urge that the negotiating side and the employer come to a solution. I am given to understand that the employer of the lecturers is indeed not the Government but the University Councils. I urge that dialogue be encouraged between the two parties to ensure that we reach a solution and our children go back to school. Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, I want to ask my colleague, the Acting Minister for Education that we scrutinise the income and expenditure of public institutions. We know a lot of money is being generated through the parallel degree programmes. Is there a way we can better utilise the money to facilitate better terms and conditions? These are the questions we shall have to raise together. Also to the striking lecturers: Can we be also upfront because both parties have to look at themselves? Are the salaries you say you earn, all that you earn or is there extra money from the parallel degree modules? What about the house allowance? I want to encourage the Minister, when he rises to respond to this Motion, to bear the salaries inclusive of the house allowances so that they are known to Kenyans the same way the salaries of hon. Members of Parliament are known and, therefore, Kenyans will be able to judge whether what is being asked is reasonable or not. Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, finally, we urge for level headedness in approach to the negotiations remembering that we are all Kenyans and we must approach issues of national importance with national interests at heart. Most finally, let none of us want to be an opportunist or a \"scavenger\" on a difficult national scene. I beg to support."
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