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    "speaker_name": "Mr. Muturi",
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        "legal_name": "Justin Bedan Njoka Muturi",
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    "content": "Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, it is Standing Order No.148(5)(c). It is very clear that the PIC, unlike the Public Accounts Committee (PAC), does not have to wait for the reports of the Controller and Auditor-General, which is reflected in Part 1 of the Report. Hon. Members need to distinguish between Standing Order No.147 which relates to the PAC, and Standing Order No.148 which governs the operations and where the functions of the PIC are clearly stipulated. I think, as the Chairman of the PIC, I am obliged to state that nowhere in this Report have we suggested that the recommendations or the resolutions of the Board be adopted by this House, and it is very important, when hon. Members contribute, to bear that in mind. We have merely reproduced the decisions of the Board for everybody here to see how it, in its considered views, felt it should regulate and control the importations. Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, a number of the hon. Members who have contributed and the ones proposing this amendment were the key proponents and architects of the Sugar Act, 2001. I was in this House and I know that they are the ones, in their wisdom, who felt and argued very convincingly and strenuously that the Minister must not be allowed to control the Board. All we are saying is that the legal notice was issued without due consultations with the Board, and for that, it is against the Public Officer Ethics Act. We passed it just the other day in 2003. It enjoins every public officer to act within the law. So, if the law says you must consult and you do not consult and then issue a legal notice misleading the entire world, you have not acted in accordance with the law. I believe we can remove the Motion. It is for this House and I am willing to argue it even if I have to be alone on this, because I have nothing personal about this matter. The hon. Kipruto arap Kirwa, the Minister for Agriculture, is my very good friend."
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