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    "speaker_name": "Ms. Karua",
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        "legal_name": "Martha Wangari Karua",
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    "content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, that is a complex question. You will recall that in this House, we have people who the Public Accounts Committee has barred from holding public offices. It is the LSK that licenses practising advocates. Although judges and magistrates were fired or forced to resign following the Ringera Report, as for those who were not tried in a court of law but and resigned voluntarily, there may not be good enough reasons to bar them from practising. It is up to us, as a society, to identify who to hire or not to hire. The fact that they get clients means that we are tolerant of those practices. So, it is a collective effort like I said, to fight the perceptions of graft. But we also have to be fair that when there is an allegation that has not been proved, we do not condemn everybody wholesale."
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