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"content": " Thank you, Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir. I will not take a lot of time. I stand to support the Motion after listening carefully to the statement made by the Minister concerned in presenting the case to this House, so that we can allocate money for the Office of the President. There are many needs that have been mentioned. However, the debate on this Motion is just for two days. We should spend time to debate these issues, so that they are handled accordingly by the Ministry. We should offer views. Hon. Members say there is corruption in the Office of the President. We are not complaining about such statements because we know that corruption is prevalent in this country. We will not take this as a negative comment because all Kenyans of good will would like to see corruption eliminated. Issues of political personalities are not in the interest of what we are discussing here. We must leave that aside and discuss important issues, for example, housing for the police officers and their morale. We do not expect them to work like donkeys, which we push right, left and centre. Their morale must be right. They must have good housing and transport in order to perform. Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, hon. Members have talked about insecurity, but it is not created by the police officers. However, it is created by people in this country who are giving police officers and the Office of the President headache. Let us join hands rather than complain. The unfortunate thing about this country, and I am sorry to say, is that we turn every issue that requires to be tackled into politics instead of turning it into a management issue. We must think about managing this country correctly. We must change our approach to issues in running the affairs of this country. One thing we need to understand is that criminals are not only found in Kenya. Every country has got criminals. Every country has corrupt people and those countries are dealing with them. It is only the degree that is different. In our case, the degree is serious. We must handle it. Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, we are now criticising the Provincial Administration. Some hon. Members are complaining about the creation of new districts. Some hon. Members went to request for the creation of these districts and now they are turning around saying they do not want the new districts. If some of us do not want those districts, they should go to their people, let them hold a meeting, let the Press cover that meeting and say what they want. If they do not want a new district, they should say so. The rest of us want these new districts. We do not want some hon. Members to speak here on our behalf because some of us want those new districts. Hon. Members are criticising the Provincial Administration. One of the reasons why we lost the referendum is because there was a clause in the proposed new Constitution on the removal of the Provincial Administration. The people rejected that issue all the way to the ground. Now we need the Provincial Administration. If you need the Provincial Administration, give it support. Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, hon. Members are talking about giving the Minister money. It seems we do not understand how a Government is run. We are not giving the Minister the money. The Minister is coming here as a politician to present a case for the Office of the President. He is not the Accounting Officer. The Accounting Officer is a different person. He is a civil servant. The Minister will not sign a single cheque for the money we will vote for the Office of the President. He has no right to do so, under the laws we made in this House. So, we are not giving Mr. Michuki any money. We are voting money for the Office of the President and the Accounting Officer will handle it. So, if we have scores with Mr. Michuki or any other politician in the Office of the President, we should bring the case separately, the Standing July 11, 2007 PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES 1953 Orders are very clear on this, and battle it out. But let us discuss the management of the affairs of this country. Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, I do not understand why any hon. Member would wish to oppose this Motion. If you oppose this Motion who will run this country? Do you know the Constitution of this country? The institution of a State passes through the President and it is his office which is asking for money, and then you say you are opposing the Vote for the Office of the President!"
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