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    "content": "Order, Mr. Gitau! You are reviving the issue. You are truly reviving the issue! If you know you are coming to make serious allegations - you may not carry all the documents - but you must carry the documents to substantiate what you are going to say all the time! If you have an intention to come and say, \"A\", \"B\" and \"C\", you know that you will be challenged. I think the matters being raised here are very weighty. I had hoped that you will not revisit them. First, if you really have anything on the conduct of an hon. Member, you bring a Substantive Motion. That is what the law says! If you do not want to discuss substantially any individual hon. Member in this House on his personal conduct, then you do not speak about it at all! That is what the law says. Secondly, on the issues raised by Mr. Nyachae; the framers of our Standing Orders had, in their minds, when the Standing Orders were being, that hon. Members will be honourable Members at all times. That is what was behind the minds of the framers! They thought that Members of this House will not only be honourable, but they will not be actuated by malice against one another or other Kenyans. Therefore, they expected hon. MemberS to obey the rules. They also expected that hon. Members speaking on the Floor of the House - out of honour - would only speak the truth. Out of honour! Because of that, they did not provide sanctions for the hon. Member speaking on the Floor of the House other than the action to be taken by Mr. Speaker. That is why you have Standing Order No.88, which talks about how to deal with a disorderly hon. Member. If it is more grievous than just a disorderly conduct, then this House punishes by naming the hon. Member, I believe under Standing Order No.89. But once the Chair has dealt with a matter in the Chamber, no further action will be taken outside the Chamber. I invite the hon. Members to look at the National Assembly Powers and Privileges Act. The Powers and Privileges Committee can only deal with the conduct of an hon. Member outside the Chamber 1732 PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES June 29, 2006 and not inside the Chamber. So, inside the Chamber, Mr. Speaker and the House, can deal with that matter. Finally, once the Chair has dealt with a matter, it ought to be over. However, I share the sentiments of the hon. Minister and the hon. Members who complained. We have the opportunity because we are now looking at our Standing Orders again. We must take cognisance of recent developments in this Chamber. I am afraid to say that I have heard and seen too much, that is not honourable; as regards what we actually do here. It appears to be on the increase. This is not an exceptional case. It is not confined to one person or party. It is fairly widespread. I look up to and depend upon you to assist to bring back decorum and good orderly conduct of the business of this House. So, can we now, as a House, individually and collectively, take deliberate steps to ensure that we run the affairs of this House and, therefore, of this country, in an honourable and dignified fashion. May I appeal from this Chair to all the hon. Members to, first and foremost, not to be driven by personal issues, either against one another or the citizens of this country. Secondly, let us never allow malice to gain control of this House. Thirdly, I would like the hon. Members to guard very jealously the integrity of this House. Fourthly, as we search ourselves as to where we are going, always, we should always take into account what we have heard and seen in the public domain. What I have received as representations from the members of the public on some utterances that we make on this Floor, would make a frightening reading. It would, sometimes, indicate how sometimes the public views us as people who are not conducting our national affairs in a manner that is honest and honourable. I have a lot of complaints. So, please, let us leave it at that now."
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