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    "id": 246905,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Prof. Anyang'-Nyong'o",
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        "legal_name": "Peter Anyang' Nyong'o",
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    "content": "What management skills do you want? Here I am in Nairobi with only one wife and I find it difficult to manage her, but that fellow has two wives, two dairy cows, children going to school and a posho mill. Yet you say that he is not a manager. When you make such a fellow the chairman of the CDF, he will do a fantastic job because he knows what income and expenditure is. Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, when the Minister stands there and says that we need to build capacity, he does not know what he is talking about. The capacity is there in the rural areas. We have not given these people resources to manage. They have few resources in the rural areas; they want more. People marry more wives because they want to exercise their managerial capacity. They want more people in the village to manage. They want people to farm and milk the cows. Rather than employ somebody to do this work, you bring a woman in the house to do that. Such people are fantastic managers. Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, the Kenya Post Bank Credit collapsed because it was being run by nyang'aus who were not interested in lending credit to our people. These characters intended to use the Kenya Post Bank Credit to get money to finance elections. This was another Anglo Leasing of those times. If we have people who are prepared to manage these institutions properly, it will work. The Minister is absolutely wrong to say that once a bank begins lending, then it will get into trouble. The business of a bank is to lend. A bank that just takes money and does not lend it, does not know what it is doing. The Kenya Post Office Savings Bank was a colonial concept. The colonialists wanted to instil the idea of saving among Africans. Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, when I joined Alliance High School in 1962, my June 14, 2006 PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES 1351 father enroled me as a saver in the Kenya Post Bank. I was given a little box where I put money and I could not take it out. That disciplined me on how to save. Every month I took this box to the Kikuyu Post Office, they opened it, took my money and put it in a book. I was told that I could withdraw from that book only when I bring back the box so that they take out the money and I withdraw. That was just to discipline me to know how to save. I should also have been taught how to borrow. Colonial mentality was just one way. You save but you do not borrow. If you do not borrow, you cannot generate capital. They used to tell us in colonial times that a bird in hand is worth two in the bush. That is a very conservative philosophy. If I have a bird in hand I should look for the other three in the bush because that is the only way I can accumulate."
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