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    "id": 249744,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Mr. Kimunya",
    "speaker_title": "The Minister for Finance",
    "speaker": {
        "id": 174,
        "legal_name": "Amos Muhinga Kimunya",
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    "content": " In making my contribution, I wish to request the House that we set aside the emotions on this particular issue. Let us ask ourselves if we really want an Advisory Board that is functional or not. Mr. Temporary Deputy Chairman, Sir, I happen to have sat in the first Kenya Anti- September 12, 2007 PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES 3907 Corruption Authority (KACA) as the representative of the accountants when we went through the setting up of the body. One of the things that we kept on missing was the representation of Government because matters were being decided in the Advisory Board and yet we could not talk, as outsiders, on matters involving the Public Service. This is a body advising on corruption in the public service, but without any input at all from the public service itself. It was a mistake at the drafting point. I would, therefore, like to urge this House that let us, for once, correct what we did not do in 2003. You cannot have an Advisory Board advising on corruption in Government without anybody representing Government to give the view of Government and yet the same body is actually set up by Parliament. It has the benefit of interacting with Parliament by law, but it has no benefit of interacting with Government by law. This body is supposed to be checking the Executive. Mr. Temporary Deputy Chairman, Sir, part of the problems we have been having is that, for example, in this House, we have been debating about the excessive salaries. They were debated out there by the private sector and no reference was made to the Public Service. The salaries were approved by the Board and we have no other opportunity to even discuss that except to pay those salaries that were set up totally outside the Public Service scales. Mr. Temporary Deputy Chairman, Sir, I would like to urge hon. Members to understand that this is an Advisory Board. I am using my own experience in setting up the former KACA. This is the Advisory Board. It does not make executive decisions on what happens. However, if we do not have that vital input about the representation of Government to provide the interlink, then we shall be failing in our duty, as Parliament, to provide an effective Advisory Board to the Kenya Anti-Corruption Commission (KACC). Mr. Temporary Deputy Chairman, Sir, I beg to oppose the amendment and support what was proposed by the Attorney-General to give real teeth to the Advisory Board and the benefit of interaction with the Government."
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