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    "speaker_name": "Mr. Kajwang",
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        "legal_name": "Gerald Otieno Kajwang",
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    "content": "Mr. Temporary Deputy Chairman, Sir, some of the statements that the Minister has given disparage our Committee! It is not very good for this House. The Committee is a Committee of this House. It works on behalf of this House. It has more time than we do to call for opinions of experts and any other interested parties. When this Committee comes to this House, it comes in good faith to advise us on what is good for this country and this House. I do not think that it is good for the Minister to rise and say that the Committee was doing something \"for personal interests\". We do not know whether a Committee has collective \"personal interest\". But let me say this: When we passed this law, it was contrary to our jurisprudence in this country. Our jurisprudence says that you are innocent until proven guilty. This jurisprudence is imported from France, which is not under the Commonwealth. It says that, so long as you are suspected, you are guilty until you prove yourself innocent. We are not going to change our jurisprudence in this country because some people want to fight their enemies. So, we are saying that this law, whether it was passed in 2001 or 2002, was a bad law! It is still a bad law today. We are going to support this Committee because we think it has sufficient time. Even the Minister and the Attorney-General had sufficient time to advise and talk to the Committee. They should not come here and allege personal interest. With those few remarks, I support."
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