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    "speaker_name": "Mr. G.G. Kariuki",
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        "legal_name": "Godfrey Gitahi Kariuki",
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    "content": "Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, let Parliament decide what kind of power those people require to discharge their duties. Unless all the bodies dealing with corruption are streamlined and given what they require--- In that case, we have no quarrel with the Minister herself. She is a new Minister in that Ministry. She was not in charge when the Kenya Anti-Corruption Commission (KACC) was commissioned. But we expect her to listen to our voices. We should be given authority by this House to have a Committee. This Parliament will assist her to perform her duties in that Ministry. Time has come for Parliament to appear like a Parliament. This Ninth Parliament May 3, 2006 PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES 879 has become the Parliament of the people. But it is so unpopular with the public because of the activities which are said to be done here. This Parliament does not depend on hand-outs from the Executive. Other Parliaments, of which I was a member, went through many problems. Even when you wanted to buy a car, you had to go through State House and other places to be given hand-outs. Although this Parliament is unpopular, it can do a lot for the people. This Parliament has no limit. Its job is to formulate laws and make sure that they are implemented properly. It is our duty. Therefore, I want hon. Members to listen to the argument that I have put forward and the argument that the Minister will put forward and find out where the Minister is directing us to. Find out what is the difference between her observations and what I am asking you to pass. Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, I had a problem with the selection of Members of this Committee. I would like Parliament to know that the names were selected according to political parties. I did not sit somewhere and list the names. I had to subject the names to leaders of political parties. So, the statement I am making is for those who are not members of this Committee. They should not feel that I have ulterior motives. My motive is to see a Committee appointed and selected by this Parliament to go and interview people and report back. We are not interested in who took what. We are not interested in whether Githongo did right or wrong. We want to find out whether institutions that are fighting corruption have the capability. If they have a problem or a bottle-neck, they should come out and tell this House. If there is an amendment of the law, I think the Minister would benefit a lot. The Committee will stick to institutions which are dealing with corruption. I think I have explained enough. We need to give a chance to my Seconder, Mr. Syongo. With those few remarks, I beg to move."
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