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    "id": 253869,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Mr. J. Nyagah",
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    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Joseph Nthiga Nyagah",
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    "content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, thank you very much for giving me this opportunity to contribute to this very important Motion. As I said yesterday, I support this Motion because it is in the national interests that we address, tackle and solve this issue of corruption so that this nation can grow. As I said yesterday, corruption goes back to the Independence of this nation and we should bring it to an end 43 years later for our nation to grow. If we do not do it now, our children will have no hope in us as leaders. Mr. Speaker, Sir, it is important that we address this issue as thoroughly as we did yesterday and we agree as a House to move forward. I see no reason whatsoever why there should be any disagreement between the Opposition and the Government on this particular subject because it is good for this nation. As I have already stated, the youth of this country need role models. What kind of role models are we if we are going to continue encouraging corruption? I think we will be the wrong parents, grandfathers and grandmothers if we do not do something about it. So, this is a God-given opportunity for us as a nation to address this particular issue. Mr. Speaker, Sir, as I summarise, corruption goes back to the first, second and the present regime. My question is: For how long are we going to continue practising corruption? If we do not bring it to an end there will be another commission of inquiry once this Government's term expires. The people who served this Government will also be affected. So, we must avoid that scenario by dealing with corruption now so that in future people do not fear taking up jobs. I am concerned because people are soon going to be worried and fearful of taking up certain positions if at the end of their tenures they will be taken to court and jailed. Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am also concerned about the effects of sacking senior officers, Ministers and Assistant Ministers. At this rate, we might have Ministers, Assistant Ministers, Permanent Secretaries and senior civil servants getting embarrassed because they are forced by circumstances to resign. It becomes very difficult to manage a country this way. A country cannot be managed if every week its officers are being sent home. We must change. This is only possible if both sides of the House support this particular Report which has been prepared by the Public Accounts Committee (PAC). The PAC has done a very good job of presenting this Report to the House. Mr. Speaker, Sir, there are two types---"
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