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    "speaker_name": "Mr. Raila",
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        "legal_name": "Raila Amolo Odinga",
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    "content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, I agree with the hon. Member who has said that it is time for people to confess. We started with the judicial reforms. There was a radical surgery of the Judiciary and we fully supported it. The first victim was Justice Oguk and he was followed by the then Chief Justice, Justice Chunga. I came out and supported the action that was being taken. Some people were saying that a certain community was being targeted. For the information of the House, Justice Oguk is my cousin and so is Justice Chunga. I came out and said that we will not support people who have been involved in any kind of corruption and they should face the music if it is true. Little did I know that this was not genuine. It was only certain people who were being targeted. Immediately, Chief Justice Chunga left, and a new Chief Justice was appointed, who then proceeded to appoint Justice Ringera to carry out the investigations. The question that arises is: Who investigated Justice Gicheru? Who investigated Justice Ringera, so that he was found to be clean to investigate other judges? That is where I have a problem. We were speaking one language on one side, but doing other things on the other side. There was no genuine commitment to carry out proper reforms, whether in the Civil Service or in the Judiciary. That is the problem that we have today. That is the reason why I have a problem when we say that we want the Kenya Anti Corruption Commission (KACC) to investigate and prosecute. When I was in detention, I was being defended by a legal firm that was called M/s Gibson Kamau Kuria, Kiraitu and Ringera Advocates. Recently, I saw on television hon. Murungi accompanied by his lawyer, Mr. Kamau Kuria, going to appear before Justice Ringera."
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