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    "speaker_name": "Mr. M. Kariuki",
    "speaker_title": "The Assistant Minister, Office of the President",
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        "legal_name": "Kariuki Mirugi",
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    "content": " Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Sir. I was only expressing my anxiety, but when the Committees meet, it is very unlikely that an hon. Member of this House will know the kind of allegations or information that is received by the Committees. We get to know the reports of the committees when they are tabled here. So, we are disadvantaged in a way because we will not have done an intervention much earlier than the time that the report is tabled. Mr. Speaker, Sir, however, my point was: Given the references made in the report that there was Cabinet approval, minutes and so forth, I am saying that picture is not complete unless we scratch below the surface and find out what was there that was being approved by this particular Cabinet. I am saying this with tremendous respect to the Leader of the Official Opposition, that indeed there is more than meets the eye in that particular Cabinet minute that has already been alluded to in the Report. I think it will be in the interests of this House and the investigators to get to know any additional information that can bring up this picture in its full length. That was the point I was making,and it is my submission that, that particular Cabinet knew so well that, in fact, an agreement with the Anglo Leasing had been signed by the time they deliberated that minute. I stand by that. Since I cannot produce any supporting documents, I wish to state that as a matter of fact. Mr. Speaker, Sir, this was a fraud being perpetuated at the Cabinet level and we need to deal with it and all the actors that participated in that Cabinet deliberation of the 27th July, 2001. I fear that almost half of that Cabinet is today sitting in this House, the majority on the opposite side. So, these are the issues I thought are really burning issues for people who are really anxious to get to the bottom of this scandal, and we blow it up once and for all and save our country."
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