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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Mr. Kenyatta",
    "speaker_title": "The Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Finance",
    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Uhuru Muigai Kenyatta",
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    "content": " Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I want to assure you and this House knows that I engage Members of Parliament. As the Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Finance, I do not know whether there has been a Minister for Finance who has engaged committees of this House as much as I have engaged them. The only reason I am saying what I am saying and the hon. Member is, indeed, a Member of the Departmental Committee on Finance, Planning and Trade and he will participate--- I do believe that had we engaged the relevant Committee, we would have found a solution. Even from the contributions of Members in this House, they recognize some of the problems or some of the issues that are not feasible for us to go in the manner that the hon. Member had put in this amendment. However, that does not mean that we were not willing to look at other amendments that would conform to our economic agenda as set out in our Vision 2030 but still be able to deal with the issue of interest rates. All I am saying is that I am committed towards continuing that engagement in a sober manner and where in a level headed manner, the Executive, whom I represent through the Ministry of Finance and Parliament through the relevant committees appointed by this House engage to find a policy solution or a direction that will ease the burden that Kenyans have. That is a commitment that I have and that is not a commitment that I believe we will be able to do within a matter of a day. The Chairman, himself, has stated that this is an issue that requires in-depth study and analysis. We are willing to engage on that basis to find that solution. However, let us refrain, as a House, from using issues, personalizing them or to say that positions have been taken for personal interests. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, just as you were saying that I need to withdraw and apologize, those who are saying that I have an interest in the financial sector and, hence, the reason for my position should also be made to substantiate that position. So---"
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