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    "id": 261898,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/261898/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Mr. Raila",
    "speaker_title": "The Prime Minister",
    "speaker": {
        "id": 195,
        "legal_name": "Raila Amolo Odinga",
        "slug": "raila-odinga"
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    "content": " Mr. Speaker, Sir, the hon. Member for Kamukunji probably has selective memory. I did not say that I know the date of next elections. I said that I will consult President Kibaki in accordance with the court ruling. What I said is that I have ears and I have eyes and I know what Kenyans are saying. So I said what we are going to be doing was going to try to respond to the need of the people in this country. That position has not changed. All we have now said is that we are not going to make arbitrary decisions among ourselves. We will bring this matter to the House and allow hon. Members to have a say on the date of the next General Elections. Dr. Khalwale talked about selective evictions of the poor. This country is big and we cannot generalize. Situations differ. I must also admit that there was a time when there was what we called land grabiosis which was a malady that afflicted this country and that there are a number of people who are living on other people’s plots without a right of doing so. Therefore, we cannot really just generalize. Mr. Speaker, Sir, we have said that where people have to be evicted, particularly where a community is living, it must be done with a human face. These people must be shown somewhere else that they are going to stay. We said that it is inhuman and cruel to send bulldozers to knock down structures where people are living with small children without any alternative given to them. He also referred to the Ndung’u Report but we now have a Land Policy that is coming before the House shortly. However, before that, the hon. Member will recall that the Minister for Lands has been revoking some of the legal allocations which were done last time. It is not selective and it is not confined to the poor. It is something that is applying to the middle class and the rich as well. Dr. Khalwale wanted to know whether the law being applied to Justice Nancy Baraza will also apply elsewhere. The issue of the Deputy Chief Justice we can say is more or less like sub judice. I would have my own feelings about this matter but I do not want to talk about my personal feelings on this issue because this matter is not in the domain of the Executive. This matter is being handled by the Judiciary and the Judiciary then asked the President in accordance with the Constitution to constitute a tribunal to investigate the conduct of the Deputy Chief Justice. Mr. Speaker, Sir, the Executive cannot therefore, be accused of being culpable in this issue. It is purely in the domain of the Judiciary and we want to ensure that transparency is observed in handling this matter. Whether the same should apply to the Minister; I know that Ministers with cases to answer are right now not serving in the Government as I know. The hon. Member for Kiharu wanted to know whether funds are available to complete the Economic Stimulus Projects (ESPs). That is a matter that will be answered by the Treasury. Hon. Members need to know that this is what was brought to substitute"
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