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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Mr. Kajwang",
    "speaker_title": "The Minister for Immigration and Registration of Persons",
    "speaker": {
        "id": 164,
        "legal_name": "Gerald Otieno Kajwang",
        "slug": "otieno-kajwang"
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    "content": " Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, you know when my brother started explaining that there were some people saying that a degree is equivalent to a CPA, I thought he was going to say so. I am glad that he has said a degree is a degree and a CPA is a CPA. Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, of course, there is need for professional experience in financial and economic matters for at least 15 years. These are very qualified people. They also need to have a distinguished career in their respective fields or whichever field it is and, of course, meet the normal requirements of Chapter Six. Now, this is the issue; a person shall not be qualified for appointment as a chairperson or a member if he is a Member of Parliament or of a County Assembly - I think that is obvious. If he is a member of a governing body of a political party - I think that is obvious because they will bring a lot of politics in this matter. If he is an elected member of a local authority – that is also obvious because he is a politician. If he is discharged of bankruptcy – of course it does not mean that if you were bankrupt one time and you had already been discharged you cannot then qualify. Bankruptcy is not a permanent sin. Even sin is forgiven by the blood of Christ. So, I think if you are already discharged, then you qualify. In fact, there was an argument that if you have been convicted of some offence, you should not qualify but I think it was removed for good reason. When somebody was convicted of some offence, he had already served a sentence and has become a good citizen, there is no reason to put that load on his neck for a life time. Lastly, a person is also not qualified if he or she has not met his or her legal obligations relating to tax and other statutory obligation. This is a very grey area because I am not so sure that it can be used against very good people. You may be almost appointed or just appointed and then somebody says that you have not paid Kshs1 billion of your taxes. You will, of course, dispute it and then go to court. By the time you clear yourself, you will have lost this position. It is something which can be very subjective. I think we could look at it one more time."
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