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    "id": 262977,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/262977/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Dr. Mwiria",
    "speaker_title": "The Assistant Minister for Higher Education, Science and Technology",
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        "legal_name": "Valerian Kilemi Mwiria",
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    "content": "I also say that there is no country in the world where transition to university--- Universities are also generally elitist institutions. The important questions are: How elitist must they be? What can we do to increase the numbers? We still appreciate the fact that many Kenyans who will support the development of this country also have to go to diploma institutions, because for every engineer we need a technician, and for every doctor we need like eight nurses and so on. So, we need to open up universities but we must also appreciate these other components that we must have, so that they support the degree holders."
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