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    "id": 26423,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Dr. Nuh",
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    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Nuh Nassir Abdi",
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    "content": "Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, I think it has been said by Mr. Mungatana and Mr. Mbadi that when we are giving such powers, sometimes even to determine the feasibility of such repayment to the Cabinet Secretary, sometimes because of how public officers might have acted in this country before, we are a bit worried and scared that some of the counties which are not well endowed and may not have the benefits of having such Cabinet Secretaries and powerful people in high offices, maybe disadvantaged. Even at a time when they are able to prove to the lender that they have the capacity to repay, a Cabinet Secretary may decide that this county government is not feasible enough because it does not have the financial management and is not likely to repay, especially when it comes to far-flung counties, like Tana River and Turkana. In such an instance, if a Cabinet Secretary is of the view that a certain borrower cannot be guaranteed because according to his or her perception or assessment that party is not endowed financially or might not meet the criteria of repayment, there has to be some recourse of appeal within this Bill, even if it is a Committee of the House or the National Assembly. That is because, sometimes, a public officer may say, out of bias: You are not competent enough and that the National Government cannot guarantee you because according to my own assessment, you are not a character of good financial standing. You may leave the Government in debt.” For that kind of an instance, there has to be a window where such an entity can appeal; either to a Committee of the House, the National Assembly or to the Senate and say: “I have proved with all documentation and with all the facts, even to the lender, that I am capable of repaying the loan. The Cabinet Secretary does not have that information. I think that window has to be left open. That is the concern I wanted to raise."
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