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    "id": 266466,
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    "speaker_name": "Mr. Orengo",
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        "legal_name": "Aggrey James Orengo",
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    "content": "First of all, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, if I can give the difference or the distinction between the Mau allocations, there is a distinction on land which is available for alienation. The Commissioner of Lands, the President or for that matter, even the Minister for Lands cannot – let me put it that way – allocate land that is not available for alienation. That includes lands that are gazetted for a particular purpose or by dint of any particular law is for use for a particular purpose. For example, like hon. Ottichilo would tell you, if it is riparian land, whatever powers the President, Commissioner of Land or the Minister of Lands has, that kind of land is not available for alienation. Or, if it was a reservation for the public – and, clearly, the Mau Forest belongs to gazetted forest area. This Parliament, in its wisdom, said that even the Minister cannot make a decision to de-gazette a forest area. That has to be brought before this Parliament. So, there is that distinction. There is land of this nature which is available for alienation. In this sense, the Minister for Agriculture surrendered it back to Government and said: “We do not need it; you can allocate that land.” The then Provincial Commissioner for Central Province, sitting together with his Committee used the procedure available at that time to allocate the land to these three beneficiaries. I have problems with that and that is why in the new law, we want every allocation to be subjected to public scrutiny. I think this is the spirit under which this Parliament has been passing a lot of legislation based on the Constitution."
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