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    "id": 274151,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Mr. Ngugi",
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    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "David Mwaniki Ngugi",
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    "content": "Mr. Chairman, Sir, as the Chair of the Departmental Committee on Local Authorities, to which you committed this memorandum, I want to go the route the Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Local Authorities went. When we got this memorandum, we invited several stakeholders, among them being the Constitution Implementation Commission (CIC), the Minister of State for Provincial Administration and Internal Security, and the Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Local Government. We have even had consultations with the Attorney-General. The first thing that my Committee looked at is the President’s assertion “By the powers conferred to me by this Section---“ We looked at it and saw that the Constitution, indeed, confers the President with powers to return a Bill with areas that he does not agree with, although we did not quite see what was difficult in Clause 30. When we came to Clause 54, we were able to accommodate what hon. Members are arguing about in the sense that in the amendments that we have provided, we have brought in Clause 41 of the National Police Service Act. We have said that the governors of the county governments shall have to be briefed regularly by the chairman of the county security committee. Mr. Chairman, Sir, we have even gone further to create a body that was not there initially, which will coordinate the functions of the national Government and those of the county governments under the chairmanship of the county governor. I find this debate to be just academic and legal. It will not push us forward to provide the legal framework for devolution. Although my friend, the Attorney-General, has consulted with hon. Imanyara,"
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