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"speaker_name": "Mr. Kajwang",
"speaker_title": "The Minister of State for Immigration and Registration of Persons",
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"content": " On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I just want to understand your ruling, because you have said that we cannot impute improper motive in the person of another hon. Member, which is correct. Is discussing a matter or stating a fact, like hon. Kiema tabled some letters here and some newspaper cuttings imputing improper motive? Could we then say that hon. Kiema was imputing improper motive on the person he was alleging wrote those letters? Really, if you suggest that a fact took place and you cannot substantiate it, you are, of course, challenged to substantiate it. Hon. Oburu has said that he can do so by Tuesday."
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