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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Mr. Orengo",
    "speaker_title": "The Minister for Lands",
    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Aggrey James Orengo",
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    "content": " Madam Temporary Deputy Chair, I agree, but I want to re-enforce the point which hon. Karua made and I think I better re- enforce it that the whole concept is that even if there is national land which vests on the national Government in Bomet, the national Government through this structure that we have has also to consult the county government. We do not want the national Government to say that this is their land and, therefore, make decisions without consultations with the county governments and vice versa. Just like oil has been discovered in Turkana, in the definition of public land, the minerals belong to the national Government and they are part of the land. We are trying to say that the national Government cannot now go to Turkana and say “this under the Constitution is our resource and you have nothing to do with it”. So, this is actually promoting devolution and hon. Ogindo should support it very vehemently."
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