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    "id": 28269,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Mr. Kimunya",
    "speaker_title": "The Minister for Transport",
    "speaker": {
        "id": 174,
        "legal_name": "Amos Muhinga Kimunya",
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    "content": " Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, I rise to support this Bill. As I contribute to the Bill, let me at the very outset recognize the contribution that has been made by the Members between yesterday and today. We have surprised ourselves that after we pass this one, this will be the ninth Bill in two days. It is a record, not just for this House, but on a group or scale. I do not think that other Parliaments have done the kind of work that we have done. For the Members, had we even got another Bill on the Order Paper, I am sure we would still have dealt with it. I am sure tomorrow there will be more success. The first job that I did in the Government was to be a Minister for Lands in 2003. That is the first time I worked in a Government office as an Accountant, getting straight into land issues. I know the frustrations that wananchi have been going through. I saw elders coming into the office and crying over their land. I saw people coming and saying how brothers and sisters had fought and killed one another and how women had been chased away. Between 2003 and 2006, you got into the office and you were not sure what depressing moments would come in because of land issues. I am happy that, at last, the journey that we started, in terms of the reform in this sector, and setting in motion some justice mechanism to sort out that very emotive issue, has come to fruition. I congratulate my successor, hon. Orengo, for spearheading this process to its final stage. Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, land issues can be very sensitive. I got myself into a lot of trouble when I tried to prescribe what should be the minimum sizes of land; I was trying to sort out issues to do with our forests. I am now happy that there is a better mechanism to sort out our future land issues. I had the problem of having to sort out the Land Dispute Tribunals and disbanding them all nationwide. I would then receive delegations saying: “My case was just appearing. I have been on that case for the last 20 years, and you have just disbanded the team that knows the history of this case. We are going to get new people on the tribunal, and there will be new extortion”. Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, it reached a point when I could not even announce that I was going to Kipipiri for meetings, because the people I would find in those meetings would have come from all over Kenya; they would know that the Minister for Lands had gone to a place where they could see him."
}