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    "speaker_name": "Mr. Murungi",
    "speaker_title": "The Minister for Energy",
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        "legal_name": "Kiraitu Murungi",
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    "content": " Mr. Speaker, Sir, there is no constituency called Meru. My constituency is Imenti South. I want to thank you for giving me this opportunity to support the Motion. They say that corruption in Africa is now like weather that everybody wants to talk about, but want to do nothing about it. For many years, in fact, since President Moi came to power in 1978, he came on a ticket of fighting corruption. If you analyze what has happened, you realize that the strategy has been talk, talk and do nothing about corruption. I tried to do something about corruption. When I was the Minister for Energy, I am the one who set up the Anti-Corruption Commission after it had been disbanded by the previous regime. We set up the Anti-Corruption Commission, appointed the directorate and passed the legal institutional framework and gave it a lot of money, so that we could fight corruption. Since then, the institution has been very controversial. Any director who goes to the Anti-Corruption Corruption, even the one we are going to appoint, is going to be at the centre of the storm. We have to work with individuals that we find in this world. We cannot invent human beings and there is no individual, including the Members of Parliament, who is an angel. Every individual will have strong points and some weak points. There are institutions to check the weaknesses of the individuals. There are many ways of refusing to fight corruption and one of the ways is what we called counter reform, namely, endless reform, but whose real intention is to make sure that nothing happens. In this particular case, there are those who do not want to fight corruption and they are the ones who want to make sure that this process is repeated. It is not that they are against Mr. Matemu and the group, but it is because they do not want an effective institution. There are serious issues like the issue of the National Hospital Insurance Fund which requires to be investigated."
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