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    "speaker_name": "Mr. Koech",
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    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "David Kibet Koech",
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    "content": "Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, in our offices, we must also have a change of mind. How Kenyans today are employed without paying a cent? How many Kenyans joined the police force and are actually employed without parting with a cent? We seem to have sanctified corruption as a nation. You will see some very innocent Kenyans being sentenced because they cannot afford to pay the lawyers. So, the majority of the Kenyans who are in prison today are actually innocent, but those who are able to buy their way out, are actually free and in the streets. We are talking about wanting to change this nation. The only way to change this nation is to fight corruption. Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, as we look at this Bill, we must, as a nation, ensure that we do not devolve corruption to our counties. We want to see counties that will ensure that there is no corruption, and it is possible. As we look at this Bill, the issue is not about the laws in this nation but it is about ensuring that the laws are followed. The people to ensure that the laws are followed are those officers whom we will put in position. I have heard my colleagues lament. I have also raised the same issues that when you are given a duty, you should be seen to be performing and not lamenting and reciting poetry for this nation. If a whole officer who is charged with the responsibility of eliminating corruption is lamenting, where are we heading to? We must ensure that the vetting process will be nothing close to a give and take situation. It is a question of placing people with integrity in positions so that we can move forward. I have also looked at the appointment of members. I have looked at Clause 6(1)(c). This obviously contemplated the Kenya National Human Rights and Equality Commission would be in place as one Commission. As we speak today, we have approved two separate commissions. So, we need to have an amendment to have the right Commissions. We may make the same mistake we made. I totally agree that we made a mistake in the appointment of the officers. I have seen Clause 17 on the removal from office of the Secretary. We have indicated there that a Secretary can be removed because of incompetence. I do not know whether that was there in the current Kenya Anti- Corruption Commission Act. We want to see action from the Government. We want the Government to ensure that this law is followed to the letter so that, in case a mistake like this one is made, we can remove the officer who is there. I would also like to appeal that we educate Kenyans on fighting corruption. I would like to support and say that this is a very important Bill for this nation.."
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