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    "content": "Committees, we must be brave enough and say this scheme is good and it should be encouraged. First of all, this Committee is split. For me when a Committee report comes here and the Committee Members are split, it is not a report even worth looking at. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, secondly, we are all in agreement that this scheme is not only excellent, but it is also like the free primary education. Today we have the free primary education, but we do not have enough teachers. Have we killed free primary education? We have not because we know that it is good for this country. So, we are struggling to ensure that there are more teachers and that there is more money given. It is exactly what we should be doing with this scheme. So, I am not even worried about the Committee or even the Chair. With due respect, this Chair is actually one of those serious chairs of committees. He is so passionate because he has been left with a committee report that has names and he does not know what to do with those names. That is why we are going to help him in this House by throwing out his whole report, because these names do not make sense. We can say it categorically on the Floor of this House that if this scheme succeeds - I am sure that it will succeed, just like free primary education has succeeded - many of the issues that we are looking at in terms of resource allocation in this country, will be a thing of the past. This is because when you have a healthy family, you have a productive country. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I know that we can speak about people because the board has names. I am appalled at Mr. Atwoli. How Kenyans can continue listening to this man shocks me, because the day that this issue was brought up politically, because I believe that it started politically on Labour Day, we were in Naivasha with the Committee on devolution. We went for breakfast and came out and Atwoli was still speaking, to a point where we asked: “What is Mr. Atwoli saying because he had been speaking for three hours.” For three hours he had been threatening Prof. Anyang’- Nyong’o and talking about NHIF. He did not even talk about workers’ concerns. He was only concerned about one thing; that workers were going to strike. I, personally, had asked Prof. Anyang’-Nyong’o to resign. People do not even know that. I told him: “You are not going to embarrass us. You are the Secretary-General of the party, what is this?” But since Backbenchers here think--- I went to the NHIF and asked to be explained about this scheme. I met a young man there, called Chacha, who heads a risk assessment division. Chacha could be the age of my son. He explained capitation which I had not even understood, and this scheme. He told us that there is even a bigger value that people are not talking about, which is the in-patient. He told us that people are being treated, just like we are treated as Members of Parliament. I do not know how Kenyans cannot be in a party mood on that issue. People do not even understand that when you go for out-patient services, you only find a desk, doctor and stethoscope. You do not find an X-ray machine behind you. But the Committee made it look like this Clinix is a fraud because it does not have an X-ray machine or mammogram, when you and I know that out-patient is out- patient. You will meet a doctor with a stethoscope on a desk. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, what am I saying? Within this NHIF scheme there are also professionals. I do not know who Kerich is, but I know Chacha. This young man explained to me what this NHIF scheme means and why these schemes have been fought worldwide. Even Obama is struggling with the same thing. When Mrs. Ngilu was crying"
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