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    "speaker_name": "Mrs. Odhiambo-Mabona",
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        "legal_name": "Millie Grace Akoth Odhiambo Mabona",
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    "content": "before and it has started coming out. The other day you saw one community evicting another community from the grave area because they felt one was favoured against the other. We do not want to mention them here because it is politically incorrect to mention people by names. I will be dead and gone one day as Millie but we must leave a country where tribes must live with each other. We cannot promote or further Government policy that creates friction. Mr. Kigen always raises these issues. He always pulls me aside and says, “Millie come and we talk because you were there; you saw and you heard”. I want to support Mr. Kigen. I saw and heard. I want to tell you places like Kisumu may be a bit better; people may be living with their pain, but Rongai is volatile and unless we do something PEV, as we were told earlier, will be like a tea party; this is if we do not deal with issues that are in places like Rongai. Please, Minister, let us deal with the situations there. Let us not pit Kalenjins against the Kikuyus. The situation that is in Rongai is not acceptable. Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, I want to say that at some point I almost feel like telling Kenyans that first I hope that we will never have the situation we had in 2007, but should we, by any bad luck ever get there, do not go back to your homes. Stay in camps because if you leave camps nobody will bother with you. Stay in camps until you are sorted out, otherwise you will be forgotten. It is not in our Report, but I want to make it a recommendation, as Millie Odhiambo. Stay in the camps because we only remember the people in the camps. Even in the camps, it is not all of them; there are some whose houses we were seeing; some even have hospitals and other camps have the worst access to healthcare. It is really terrible the things that we do in this country. That is why I want to say that I agree that the Report has actually said a lot on the issue of discrimination. The Report is not exaggerated. I saw it live and we must deal with it. Women and children are suffering the most. They do not have basic healthcare, especially the ones who are still in camps. Most of the camps do not have basic healthcare systems. Some do not get food rations and many of them just want to know that they can be settled and get on with their lives. Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, I want to also indicate that we should not only look at the 2007 victims. There are many people who looked for us as a Committee. There are some who even came to Nairobi to look for the Committee. I want to remember specifically the historical IDPs like the Talai IDPs. I am happy that of late a lot has been done even in the media to show the plight of the Talai IDPs. I would want to say, let us look at all IDPs, forest evictees, flood evictees and others. Let us also look at our IDPs who are also still living out of the country. These are the IDPs living in Uganda and would like to come, but do not have assurances."
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