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    "id": 306515,
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    "speaker_name": "Mrs. Shebesh",
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        "legal_name": "Rachel Wambui Shebesh",
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    "content": "Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, I hope I can be heard now. I want to start by supporting the list of nominees for the Commission. I want to speak about three things, two of which have been canvassed. One is on the issue of tribe and tribe being a factor on this list of commissioners. The second issue I am going to speak about is the unfortunate remark about one of the commissioners. The issue of historical injustice on land has been centered on communities for a very long time and maybe that is the reason why we have been unable to solve concretely the issue of historical injustices on land. If the way to go is to ensure that all tribes that feel affected by land grievances are represented on any commission or body that will be dealing with the same, we, probably, need to put over 20 tribes out of the 42 tribes that we have. This is because I can tell you that it is not only three or four who speak the loudest who are aggrieved. Therefore, just because others do not have the numbers to speak loudly does not mean that they are also not aggrieved. They also need to be represented. Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, what we have done in setting up commissions is to clearly put in place a structure that will allow this issue of historical injustices to be set out. When we were discussing the Land Commission, we went to Mombasa for a retreat. The Minister for Lands did a lot of work to convince us that the structures that were set were right. I think we agreed on that. Therefore, today, if the same argument that we want to use is that because my community or your community is not represented in the list--- It is the same argument we should have used by saying that the Minister for Lands being from a community that normally has no issues with land is not the right Minister then to oversee the Ministry of Lands. I want to say without fear of contradiction that any of the members here will represent any community that feels marginalized as if they were representing their own. In fact, let me say that if these members come on board as members of these communities – I heard one of my colleagues from the Coast Province congratulating the Chair because he is from the Coast and now the Coast issues will be solved – I will be very hesitant, therefore, as person who does not come from the Coast Province, and this is the Chair of my Commission, to say whether or not he will be biased. Let us be very careful about labeling these commissioners. These commissioners will be rendering a national service and not service to their communities. I am 100 per cent sure that is what they intend to do. Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, I want to speak about the very unfortunate remarks by a former Head of State; a man whose retirement we want to leave him to enjoy; a man whose respect we still want this country to give and a man whose legacy we want to be able to enjoy. We want to say candidly as people who represent the people of Kenya – all the people of Kenya, that is, those with disabilities and those without, women"
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