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    "content": "very young - or even during the time of President Moi who the head of intelligence service was. This is because they were never seen in public because their work was to gather intelligence. I did not even know that the intelligence gathered by this country could be used to prosecute the same country. I thought that intelligence is to protect its own. It shocked me that during the time of the post-election violence, there was enough intelligence to know who was going where. Instead of that intelligence being used to stop the violence, it was instead carted off to the International Criminal Court (ICC); to take our people there. The confidence of giving the NSIS the things that have been written in this Bill will not be under my watch. I can tell you that Kenyans all over the world and Kenyans in this country know two things; that anything that goes wrong or you have people leaving one party, it is the NSIS that is responsible; party springing from nowhere, it is the NSIS and if it is grenade attacks that you cannot explain, it is the NSIS. Until you change the perception of the NSIS in this country so that Kenyans can be confident that your work is not to record my conversation so that you can leak it to the media tomorrow; that Mr. Jakoyo bought a suit worth Kshs500,000 because that is the kind of information that you gather, we will not do much. The NSIS will tap our phones in the guise of collecting information. Before phones came, was intelligence not being gathered? Why must you keep tapping everybody’s phone? That is not the only way to gather intelligence. We will not be intimidated because we have a new Constitution and we are simply saying, first, change the perception of what an intelligence service is. Let us stop having the kind of incursions we are seeing all over the country. You do not need intelligence service to tell you that there is tension in the country. This is the case and yet there is no report on intelligence so that, that can be forestalled. We want to give this country confidence. We also want to change the way things are being done. We have reformed the Judiciary and the police is being reformed. If we are reforming the police by giving the NSIS the work of the police, that is not the way to go. This Bill states very clearly, again, that we will be transiting the current members of the NSIS. I want to say, again, without any fear of apology that we have no problem transiting them but they must be vetted. There cannot be anybody in this country who is above vetting when we are vetting everybody and anybody for any job. So, they can continue with the job but they must be vetted so that Kenyans can have confidence in their security agencies because at the end of the day, Mr. Minister, we must be secure in this country for us to have peace and prosperity. I support the Bill."
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