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    "speaker_name": "Mr. Ogindo",
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        "legal_name": "Martin Otieno Ogindo",
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    "content": "Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, I rise to support this Bill with amendments. I want to observe that all the hon. Members who voted for “yes” for the reduction of time have left. The people who are prepared to debate are all here. Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, I want to start by saying that I have been a student of Mr. James Orengo who is a constitutional lawyer. Mr. Orengo has professed in this House that the Constitution is arranged in a manner that, in a sense, from the first page to the last page gives a sense of subordination. In other words, Cap.1 is superior to Cap. 2. Looking at the Constitution clearly you see where the security issues come in. The security issues come in late in Cap.12 or 13. That means the security issues are subordinate to the civil liberties. That is why the liberties come in the early chapters. The whole essence of that is we must not allow the later chapters to undermine the earlier chapters. Having said that, I must say that the core function of the service is to gather intelligence. We must not reduce again this service to be a “suspect” gatherer instead of being an intelligence gatherer. By turning the agents into suspect gatherers, you are even exposing the whole service. A person who arrives today shall be known to have been a service agent and will be a marked person thereby endangering his life. Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, there are provisions here dealing with classification of information. That is a very delicate area that requires thorough and clear definition. Information would range from written to verbal to electronic. I do not know at what point a verbal piece of information is a classified piece of information. As such, we"
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