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    "content": "department. Where the President feels that the Director-General who was serving before he took over made mistakes that can lead to gross dismissal, then it is only fair that he sets up a commission to investigate him. If it finds him guilty, then that is the time he can be dismissed. Otherwise, it is only fair that he be transferred from serving as the Director- General to any other Government department because inefficiency does not mean that he is not loyal to the system. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, on the issue of guns and arrests, I do not know why we want to make a fuss out of it. Even those of us who do not like carrying guns are entitled to be licensed by the Government to carry guns. If an officer serving with the NIS can apply for licence to carry a gun in his private capacity, and get it, there is no reason as to why we should deny such an officer the right to access a gun through his official capacity. He should access a gun and be able to arrest suspects, but the prosecutorial powers should rest with the Director of Public Prosecution. That way, we will be able to deal with matters on time, without having to, later on, regret that a suspect has run away and crossed our borders because an intelligence officer had to contact the police for the police to go and arrest the suspect. If there is need for intelligence officers to arrest somebody, let them apply for a warrant of arrest. It should not be difficult, as long as they effect the arrest at any hour of the day or night. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, now that we have a good Judiciary, implementing this should not be difficult. Even confidentiality can be maintained. There will be no interference by the Executive. It will not be difficult for the NIS to obtain warrants of arrest to be able to execute their duties. On the issue of academic qualifications, we should provide for a transition period. As much as academic papers are important, they are not everything. We need to give officers a transition period, so that they can comply with the requirement of whatever minimum qualifications are set for a specific category of officers. However, this should not be forever. There should be a specific timeframe during which officers much ensure that they acquire the minimum qualifications, so that they can also be in tune with whatever other Kenyans are expected to achieve in their various capacities. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, it is very strange that we are worried about tapping of our phones by the NIS. Why should you be worried if you know that you are clean? The only confidential message that you may be passing on phone could be to your girlfriend or, for that matter, your loved one. Why should you be worried that the NIS will be listening to the sweet nothings that you would be saying to her? If they want to listen to that conversation, let them go ahead---"
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