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    "id": 314765,
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    "speaker_name": "Mr. Wamalwa",
    "speaker_title": "The Minister for Justice, National Cohesion and Constitutional Affairs",
    "speaker": {
        "id": 148,
        "legal_name": "Eugene Ludovic Wamalwa",
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    "content": " Mr. Temporary Deputy Chairman, Sir, I think it is not just a practice, because it is a requirement under the State Corporations Act for the Permanent Secretary for Finance to be on the boards of all State corporations. But for the purpose of the composition of both the council and the board, what we are looking at are the institutions, the offices, and not the individuals. They have no interest in the KSL or in the council. By virtue of their offices, they are supposed to hold these positions; also looking at the manner in which we are now going to be vetting and appointing public officers, there are levels of vetting that a Chief Justice, the Attorney-General or the Cabinet Secretaries will go through; they will need the approval of these House; these are going to be people of integrity, and people who can be trusted by the public to hold offices, and they will not have any conflict of interest. When you look at the specific provisions under Clause 7 of the Kenya School of Law Bill, the functions are very clearly set out. Also when you look at the Legal Education Bill, the functions of the council are set out. They are different; one is a regulator and the other one is a service provider. These are very specific functions for those who will be holding these Offices. Being people of integrity, and who will have gone through a proper vetting process, when they are given responsibilities, they will be able, I have no doubt, to discharge them effectively, and I do not foresee any conflict of interest. Therefore, we want to disabuse the Member of the fear that if they are the same people, there could be a conflict of interest arising. As Mr. Githae has said, they serve on numerous boards by virtue of their offices. So, we want to plead with hon. Members that"
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