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    "speaker_name": "Mrs. Shebesh",
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    "content": "Thank you, Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir. I stand to support the Report of the Committee but with an amendment which reads as follows: “THAT, the Motion be amended by deleting the fullstop at the end thereof and inserting the words “subject to deletion of recommendations 3 and 4 on page 53.” Let me read what I am proposing to delete in my amendment. I am proposing that we delete the recommendation that says: “hon. Amos Kimunya and Prof. Njuguna Ndung’u have been responsible for the loss of Kshs1.83 billion acted contrary to the provisions of Chapter 6 of the Constitution of Kenya, the Public Officer Ethics Act and the Public Procurement and Disposal Act in that respect and for that reason, they are not fit to hold public office. I also want to delete recommendation (4) which states: “The appointment of Prof. Njuguna Ndung’u as the Governor of the Central Bank of Kenya should be terminated towards this end. The President should appoint a tribunal pursuant to provisions of Section 14(2) and (3) of the CBK Act, Cap 491. In the meantime, Prof. Njuguna Ndung’u must step aside from office with immediate effect.” Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, I want to be very quick and precise as to why I am recommending this. I started by saying that I support the report. One reason why I support the Committee Report is, as my colleagues have said, we must respect the work of Committees of this House. That is number one. Committees that come with a Report that is unanimous must be respected, because that is why we sit in Committees. However, Committee Members that come here in disunity should not blame us when we throw out their reports or dismiss them. So, I will clearly say that this is not a split committee, and that is why I have brought an amendment. I am not talking about throwing out the Report. The Report, as has been said by the Minister, gives very good suggestions and agrees with many policies that the Government came up with, especially the issue of the joint venture. The Committee also went further to check whether there were any losses incurred. Recommendations 1 and 2 of the Committee talk about the Ethics and Anti-Corruption Commission, and say that it should investigate the Minister for Finance for the loss of about Kshs1.8 billion. They also say that the same Commission should investigate the Governor of the Central Bank of Kenya. I will then go to the third and fourth recommendations that I am deleting. Why am I deleting them? This is because with all due respect to the Committee and to this House, we have started to be accused of going beyond our mandate. We cannot give work to the Ethics and Anti- Corruption Commission clearly as recommendation one and two, and say that it should investigate the Minister and the Central Bank Governor and then quickly follow by saying that they should not hold public office. Then what have we asked the Ethics and Anti-Corruption Commission to do? We should just forget about the Ethics and Anti-Corruption Commission. According to me, if they had gone directly without the Ethics and Anti-Corruption Commission--"
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