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"content": "Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, my Ministry has not held any workshops in Mombasa and other places he is talking of. We are very thrifty with our money. When donors give money, they give for a specific activity. Unfortunately, we cannot change that activity. I negotiated for some vehicles which we gave to many constituencies. Those are double cabin vehicles that we got from the World Bank through my efforts. They provided specific vehicles for surveillance at the headquarters. I am now trying to get those vehicles out because I do not want them at the headquarters. I want them out there, but I have to get permission from the person who gave that donation. They give a lot of conditionalities. For the American grant, you cannot take even a cent. They might say that they will give it directly to a community and not to the Government. We do not have a free hand in relation to the amounts that you are talking about. If they have given money for a specific workshop somewhere, you have to hold that workshop. If they are given for a specific workshop, we have to do that workshop. But I am saying that I have not been doing those workshops. When I negotiate for any funds, other than what donors sometimes decide among themselves, that even before coming through the Ministry they are going to do a certain function and they tell us, our role, therefore, is to support. However, as long as it is beneficial to our people we say: “Yes”, because it is not your money. But we do not move money for one function to another without the permission of the person who is giving the money. As I said, we will look into the issue. If it is possible, I am very sympathetic to community health workers because I know the work that they do. I follow what happens around the country very closely."
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