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"speaker_name": "Maj. Sugow",
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"content": " Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, I stand here to very much support this Motion, but with a small amendment. Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, I want to thank hon. Mungatana and Dr. Nuh for their effort in bringing the two warring communities together. They have worked tirelessly and I would really like this House to support them in their efforts, to ensure that they bring peace between their communities. This House has all along been supportive since this conflict started. It is high time we stood up to this. Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, I would like to clearly explain the circumstances under which our Defence Forces can be deployed within the country, so that we understand clearly. The Army can be deployed in the country in two scenarios. One, where there is insurgency in the country and where people are actually fighting the Government or the Kenyan nation. That is now an internal security problem and our Defence Forces can be deployed, just like when they are actually fighting an external enemy. But there is what we call “Aid to Civil Authority”. This is where our Defence Forces do not work as though they are fighting an external enemy. They work under the local civilian authority. When they are deployed, limited numbers are taken to those areas and they are brought under the control of the security organs at the district level. The Commander who is supposed to be commanding that contingent is supposed to be taking instructions and orders from the civil security authority in that particular area. It is not that they are deployed anyhow and they go there to fight anybody they find and do all sorts of things that they want. Actually, they work with the police---"
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