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    "id": 322727,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/322727/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Dr. Oburu",
    "speaker_title": "The Assistant Minister for Finance",
    "speaker": {
        "id": 194,
        "legal_name": "Oburu Ngona Odinga",
        "slug": "oburu-odinga"
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    "content": " Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, I also rise to support this Motion. Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, hon. Haji expressed his support for Mr. Johnston Kavuludi because he was the Provincial Director of Education when hon. Haji was the Provincial Commissioner in Western Province. I was the Provincial Planning Officer for the same province and Johnston Kavuludi did a very wonderful job in reforming education in Western Province. I also hope that he will transfer his skills to this very important Commission. One of my friends spoke about technology; that police reforms need to include technology. More importantly, I think that police reforms require the reform of the attitudes of the police towards people. This is because up to now, some policemen still have the colonial attitude and wananchi fear them. There is fear in giving them reports and co-operating with the police. I am sure that the change of mentality is not only from the police side, but our people will have to trust the police so that they can be effective in performing their duties. Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, as long as people still regard the police as a fearful and forceful force, which is not meant to serve the civil society, but to threaten them and extort money from them, the police reforms shall not be completed. Even if you give them equipment, their mentality much change and be friendly to people."
}