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    "speaker_name": "Mr. Shakeel",
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        "legal_name": "Ahmed Shakeel Shabbir Ahmed",
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    "content": "Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, in that case, could we then go to proposed Section 5A(b)? Is that one not going to be amended? The fine is remaining. In the same terms, I object because, in this case, it is the other way round. It says “a fine not less than Kshs20,000 or both”. I would suggest a fine not exceeding a certain figure. So, we are clearly putting “not less than Kshs20,000”. I would like the Chair of the Committee to help me. If we amend Clauses 9(a) and (b), we are leaving Sub Section (5B) as it stands; if that is the case, then I do not object."
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