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    "id": 325064,
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    "speaker_name": "Mr. Mwau",
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        "legal_name": "John Harun Mwau",
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    "content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I thank the Minister for attempting to answer the Question, but it is very important to first of all establish whether the Minister is the one who actually responded to this Question. This is because there seems to be a big deficiency between the Treasury and the CBK. It is as if there are people who cannot read and understand English. My question is very simple: (a) Is the Minister aware that the Central Bank of Kenya has been losing colossal sums of public funds for an inordinate long time as fees paid to lawyers to defend court cases that arise from acute negligence at the bank? (b) Could the Minister provide a full list of all cases where the Central Bank has used public funds to pay lawyers in respect of such cases covering the period 1990 to date and indicate the case numbers, parties involved, the names of the lawyers and the fees paid to each? Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the Minister is only supposed to give me a list of cases from 1990 where the CBK has spend public money. The Minister is behaving as if he does not know that there are cases like Goldenberg on which the CBK spent money to defend theft that was orchestrated by individuals in the CBK. It is, therefore, wrong for the Minister to stand before the House and give information that looks like it is not truthful. Could the Chair order him to go and bring that information if he is not in collusion with CBK officers? Maybe, there is no corruption in the Government, but we have very inefficient people in the Treasury."
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