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    "id": 334126,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/334126/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Dr. Kosgei",
    "speaker_title": "The Minister for Agriculture",
    "speaker": {
        "id": 59,
        "legal_name": "Sally Jepngetich Kosgei",
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    "content": " Thank you very much, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. Let me begin by thanking all these learned colleagues of mine, especially those who have had a lot to do with this field. Your contributions will enrich the final product when we sit down to do this Bill at the Committee stage. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, however, for the purposes of the HANSARD, let me say this right away. On the Fourth Schedule, as you will see, we have among the institutions, the Kenya Forestry Research Institute (KEFRI). By mutual agreement with the relevant Ministry, we decided to leave this one out because there is always a contradiction between agriculture and conservation. Conservation and forestry, especially in view of climate change, is best left to handle its own schedule. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I have listened very carefully. Research in development is extremely important. It cannot be gainsaid. It can only progress with enough funding. Currently, the situation is that our research institutions benefit more from external funding than from this country. It is the same thing that one can say for the rest of agriculture. That is a shame. I think collectively, we have to bring this back home. If you look at a country like Japan, you will find that the Science and Technology Ministry is a top Ministry. In our country we do not seem to understand that we cannot develop without this. We cannot always rely on someone else. We have taken these sentiments on board. If any of you has anything to add, please, as you know we will still go to the Committee. We shall be moving amendments, in any case, based on your contributions for which I thank you all most heartily. Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir."
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