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    "content": "Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, I also want Mrs. Noor to deal with the issue of double registration, because that is one of the issues she is seeking to address. Even though she and hon. Balala have spoken to this issue, she has not legally managed to provide for it. The room she is living will enable us, as Cradle, to still be registered as a trust and, by option; we can register through this Bill. If we do not like it, it means that we can still pull out and operate as a trust. You will not have cured what you are trying to do. You are still leaving us within the same framework. I can still choose to ignore you all together. If we really want to bring sanity in that sector, we should find one framework for registering all those organizations. Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, one of the issues that I want to also take issues with is the international Non-Governmental Organizations (NGOs). I have seen that you are providing by definition of international NGOs. By enabling them to be registered in this Act, you are by legal inference stating that they will be able to access the public coffers of the Government of Kenya. I will want to tell you that we love those international NGOs, but the public funds of Kenya should be limited to NGOs that are Kenyan based. They should not be accessed by international organizations that also have access to funds from their own countries. In most of these organizations, people do not understand how we struggle to set up organizations. Most of it is based on a person’s interest; if you consider it a vocation like I have done which is an issue of public service. When I founded the Cradle, I founded it with Kshs1,000. I ran that office for one year with my own money. At one point, my desk was actually a carton and many people say, “You, people, have a lot of money”, and all that. You get a lot of money having sacrificed a lot. When you get that money as Mrs. Noor will tell you, the donors are more stringent about their own funds. All NGOs that are serious are audited every year. No donor will give you a drop of their money if you are not audited by a proper auditing firm. Therefore, with the struggle that NGOs in this country go through that money should be limited to NGOs in Kenya and not international NGOs. Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, another thing is that I know the provisions here for the preamble are very good. But if we could make reference to our drafting office yet again, it is a legislative style that is more common with the drafting of conventions and not Acts of Parliament. If you can look at it, they are very good, but I am not too sure this is the place for them. I have many specific suggestions which I will not go into, but which I will give the Committee for purposes of amendments. I have a lot of issues that I want to raise. Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, finally, I just want the hon. Member to clarify for us the role of the NGO Council because it is not very clear in this Bill. With those few remarks, I support."
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