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    "id": 350156,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Mr. Keynan",
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    "speaker": {
        "id": 41,
        "legal_name": "Adan Wehliye Keynan",
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    "content": "Mr. Deputy Chairman, Sir, I beg to move:- THAT the Draft Standing Orders of the Senate be amended by deleting the proposed Standing Order No. 218. What informs this, and we need really to think and be very pragmatic, is that having overseen this very important organization, what we expect is to allow the Senate to deal with that organization because the functions of the Senate are clearly spelled out in the Constitution as to when it will require information from the intelligence agencies. If you look at Standing Order No.2(b) that is what we deleted from the NSIS Act. Therefore, putting it here when we have already deleted Standing Order No. 2(b), in my opinion, may not be right. Mr. Deputy Chairman, Sir, taking into account that this organisation has many different faces, amongst us, there are NSIS workers here as we sit. Therefore, if we accept this, technically we will be allowing them to pick their friends, constitute a committee which technically means that they will be overseeing themselves. So, I think the prudent way to do it is to allow each of the Houses to have its own independent intelligence committees and remove this joint one. If you look at the functions, the NSIS cuts across both defence and also homeland. Therefore, if we put this, in my opinion, and what we have seen over the last five years, it might not allow hon. Members a free atmosphere to interrogate, oversee and even interact with the organisation officials, taking into account the national security needs. Therefore, my proposal is to delete this Joint Committee and allow each of the Houses to have the latitude to come up with a joint committee as and when the situation demands instead of having it as one of the joint select committees. I want to ask Mrs. Odhiambo-Mabona to second my amendment."
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